徒子徒孙
      Explanation: Apprentice and the re-transmission of the apprentice. Metaphor of a clock is said of people (including derogatory).
      Usage: Joint type; as subject, object; containing derogatory
      Source: "Hua Yue Hen" 51 back: "That night the Mind Body dressing, called disciples."
      Examples: India led the heart ~, in the autumn they begin Ren Jing Hua Tang. (Qing Wei Xiuren "Hua Yue Hen" back forty)