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 'twixt ape and Plato
Where's The Poet? by John Keats.
Where's the Poet? show him! show him,
Muses nine! that I may know him.
'Tis the man who with a man
Is an equal, be he King,
Or poorest of the beggar-clan
Or any other wonderous thing
A man may be 'twixt ape and Plato;
'Tis the man who with a bird,
Wren or Eagle, finds his way to
All its instincts; he hath heard
The Lion's roaring, and can tell
What his horny throat expresseth,
And to him the Tiger's yell
Come articulate and presseth
Or his ear like mother-tongue.
谁有兴趣一翻，这首挺好的，此时此境，对这里的诗人而言。
2007-10-06 22:46:22 |
| Lake ?2007-10-07 13:11:58?? Re: 'twixt ape and Plato |  |
| 博弈 wrote: |
Where's The Poet? by John Keats.
Where's the Poet? show him! show him,
Muses nine! that I may know him.
'Tis the man who with a man
Is an equal, be he King,
Or poorest of the beggar-clan
Or any other wonderous thing
A man may be 'twixt ape and Plato;
'Tis the man who with a bird,
Wren or Eagle, finds his way to
All its instincts; he hath heard
The Lion's roaring, and can tell
What his horny throat expresseth,
And to him the Tiger's yell
Come articulate and presseth
Or his ear like mother-tongue.
谁有兴趣一翻，这首挺好的，此时此境，对这里的诗人而言。 |
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I never liked translated poems. Who dare say poems can be translated?
How can a poem be translated? The more I know, the more I believe it can never happen.
Every word is unique, so translation is redundant. Learn the language, don't read translation.
But, I think every thing except poetry could be translated. |
我看有你这段话，没人愿翻了。 
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| 博弈 ?2007-10-07 15:46:52?? | |
Lake 抓得好，我的意思仍然是理论上诗是不可翻译的，
但在尝试翻译的过程中，诗人（或译者）会精读一首诗，
而取得对诗更深入的体会（我要的是这个），所译文就
变成一个附带产品以说明译者对诗的理解。
翻译上有一个理论，如果 原文是 A, 译文是 B,
当译文 B 被翻回 A' 时，如果 A = A', 则是不失真的好翻译。
诗很难做到这一点，因为每一个字都重要。但对不懂 A 语言
的读者言，有 B 自然是很好的。 除此之外，我是鼓励诗人
涉猎第二语言的诗，一个附带收获会是因此而对第一语言的诗作有启发。
不同的人翻出不同的版本，而所有的版本共同解读了一首诗。翻吧 
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| kokho ?2007-10-18 15:04:06?? | |
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哗 ：）
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