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祥子谈诗----前人的论述,我的理解
陈若祥
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PostPosted: 2007-05-23 02:03:49    Post subject: 祥子谈诗----前人的论述,我的理解 Reply with quote

祥子谈诗----前人的论述,我的理解

好诗好在哪儿,对于每一首诗来说都是不一样的。但并不是说好的诗没有共性。我以为最重要的两点是:诗味和诗境。

关于诗味,中国第一个提出以味论诗的人是钟嵘,他在《诗品》中提出“滋味说”。他把“滋味”作为衡量诗歌的主要尺度。他曾批评玄言诗“稍尚虚谈,于时篇什,理过其辞,淡乎寡味”。我们由此可以想到,当今也存在着“虚谈”、“理过其辞”的诗作。这样的诗作是“虚伪”诗作,我们不去怀疑作者的创作动机,但其诗作流露出的不是“真情”,也就没有了诗味。当然这种“虚谈”在当今还表现为“无病呻吟”的病态之作,其作品充斥着无逻辑的呓语,往往还自诩为什么意识流、现代主义……

关于诗境,已有不少朋友谈到这一点。意境一说,我们不妨先看看前人的论述。唐代皎然《诗式》曾对诗境作了深刻的阐释,他认为:
⑴诗境要“采奇于象外”,诗歌的意境要于具体的物象描写之外,使人联想到更加丰富的象外之奇景。当然,这也是司空图所谓的“象外之象,景外之景”(《与极浦书》)。这一点即我们常说的一首诗歌要留出“空白”,留下“想像空间”,留下读者品咏的“余地”。
⑵诗境要“明势”,具有“气韵生动”,好的诗歌要有飞腾之势,动态之美。这种飞动之势其实在中国古代的建筑中都有所体现。我认为,这一点体现在的诗歌上为一首好诗应有内在的和谐的旋律,而非晦涩文字的堆砌和抽象概念的阐释与生发,应该有气韵之美。
⑶诗境要有自然之美,浑然天成。没有人为造作的痕迹。他曾评苏武之诗,说“天予真性,发言自高”。从中我们,能看出好诗应当崇高真实,自然不落痕迹。这一点能提醒我们:一首好的诗歌绝不是技巧的堆砌和展示,我们周围有些诗歌的写作成了技巧的玩弄,进而批量生产,成了复制诗歌的文本。
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草原牧歌
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PostPosted: 2007-05-23 02:28:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

评得好,让我们大家都来写有"诗味"和"诗境"的诗!
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PostPosted: 2007-05-23 09:56:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

收藏,问好祥子!
我记得我写过一首说是意识流的尝试,其实我并不太懂什么是意识流.金金说她是意识派.我到没给自己归到那中派,现在只是学习~ Very Happy
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韩少君
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PostPosted: 2007-05-23 14:24:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

赞同。祥子的诗论很塌实。万变不离其中,前人明论,应予传承。
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changan
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PostPosted: 2007-05-24 02:33:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

韩少君 wrote:
赞同。祥子的诗论很踏实。万变不离其中,前人明论,应予传承。

同感,学习!问好各位!
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