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Zen and the Art of Submitting Poetry
by Cameron
Rejection does not make you a bad poet.
Acceptance does not make you a good one.
Therefore, neither should trouble you.
Chase after fame, however, and you put your life
Into the hands of others:
They will tip you between hope and despair.
Aim, then, to be aimless.
Seek neither publication, nor acclaim:
Submit without submitting.
禅与投稿的艺术
拒绝并不意味着你是一个蹩脚诗人，
接受也不意味着你是一个优秀诗人。
因此，两者都不应困扰你。
追求名声只是将自己的生命
交付到别人手中：
他们让你在希望和失望中倾斜。
有目的，而又无目的。
不须追求出版，也无须追求称赞：
投稿于不投稿中。
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非马
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| 发表于: 2009-03-07 12:43:54 发表主题: |
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LAKE好!
Cameron 似乎颇善于使用双关语.我是这样解释下列两句,不知是否符合原意:
Aim, then, to be aimless--头一个AIM是说写作时要瞄准目标,写成以后(THEN)则别太汲汲于找地方发表.
Submit without submitting--前一个Submit是指投稿, 后一个则指"屈服"或"投降"
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Lake
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| 发表于: 2009-03-08 13:30:48 发表主题: |
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谢谢非马先生。
指出的这两句，切中要害。 我再好好想想。
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| 发表于: 2009-03-14 22:03:13 发表主题: |
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Thank you for introducing this poem.
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Aim, then, to be aimless.
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I may be wrong, but grammatically this sounds like
'then aim to be aimless' |
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Lake
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| 发表于: 2009-03-15 17:45:25 发表主题: |
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Aim, then, to be aimless.
I may be wrong, but grammatically this sounds like
'then aim to be aimless'... |
Thanks just.
You're just, then this line must be problematic.
Do you mean 那么，目的就是没目的/目标就是不追求目标？
still pondering. ..
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kino
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| 发表于: 2009-03-16 02:19:27 发表主题: |
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Aim, then, to be aimless.
Seek neither publication, nor acclaim:
Submit without submitting.
这一节不好翻译。
这是传说中的打油诗？  |
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Lake
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| 发表于: 2009-03-16 06:27:46 发表主题: Zen and Tao's aimless approach to life |
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Aim, then, to be aimless.
Seek neither publication, nor acclaim:
Submit without submitting.
这一节不好翻译。
这是传说中的打油诗？
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这是禅中的不可言说。 是不好翻!
开始时掉以轻心了。经非马先生指出，越想越不好翻。
特别是很难译出一词所含有的double meaning.
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Lake
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谢谢诸位的参与和建议。和作者交流，他说：You are right on both counts.
Zen and Taoism both advocate an aimless approach to life - so therefore it becomes an aim.
Yes, submit works in both ways: to submit poetry and not to submit to the submitting process (or authority).
请问大家，双关语可译吗？如不可，翻译中如何取舍？
谢谢！
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