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欺騙的技巧
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PostPosted: 2008-12-09 08:31:10    Post subject: 欺騙的技巧 Reply with quote

欺騙的技巧

共產主義:我救助那些無法救助自己的人.
資本主義:我賺取信用所能賺取的金錢.
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PostPosted: 2008-12-09 11:48:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

博弈 wrote:
欺騙的技巧

共產主義:我救助那些無法救助自己的人.
資本主義:我賺取信用所能賺取的金錢.
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Is this a riddle? I can't think it right. Embarassed

If the first statement is deceiving, it means those helpless people won't get helped; if the second statement is also deceiving, then what's the truth?

My mind is not working.
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PostPosted: 2008-12-09 19:07:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

【国际歌】唱道‘’不靠神仙和皇帝 只靠自己救自己‘’
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PostPosted: 2008-12-09 20:06:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

我救助那些無法救助自己的人(前提)
所以, 我救助他人(因為我能),
但我無法救助自己(違反前提)
如我無法救助自己則我又歸類為
'那些無法救助自己的人', 我必須救我自己
--矛盾啦.
(其實這是所謂的'數學第三次危機'的悖論應用在語義上)
一個這樣說的人, 在一般語言上是很能打動人心的,
不論他站在台上(能的)或台下(無法的). Smile
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PostPosted: 2008-12-10 12:29:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

这些是宗教后面的宗教。
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PostPosted: 2008-12-11 07:11:18    Post subject: 辣妹、辣弟,傻傻分不清楚。 Reply with quote

Lake wrote:
博弈 wrote:
欺骗的技巧

共产主义:我救助那些无法救助自己的人.
资本主义:我赚取信用所能赚取的金钱.
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Is this a riddle? I can't think it right. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 2008-12-11 08:34:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

博弈 wrote:
我救助那些無法救助自己的人(前提)
所以, 我救助他人(因為我能),
但我無法救助自己(違反前提)
如我無法救助自己則我又歸類為
'那些無法救助自己的人', 我必須救我自己
--矛盾啦.
(其實這是所謂的'數學第三次危機'的悖論應用在語義上)
一個這樣說的人, 在一般語言上是很能打動人心的,
不論他站在台上(能的)或台下(無法的).(前提)
...


Ok, 悖論. ie. 惑乱人心. Long time no read Mark's words, my mind becomes dull.

分析第二题

资本主义:我赚取信用所能赚取的金钱.(前提)

绕大弯儿吧。


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PostPosted: 2008-12-11 08:38:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

詩盜喜裸評 wrote:
辣妹、辣弟,傻傻分不清楚。


辣妹、辣弟、腊八,由电脑自动指定。
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问好!
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PostPosted: 2008-12-11 15:02:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

詩盜喜裸評 wrote:
这些是宗教后面的宗教。


有道理. 思想產生信仰,信仰產生宗教.
在宗教下, 語義是可以脫離 指涉的,
思想也可以以脫離語文的意義.
用一種宗教去詮釋另一種宗教, 也危險.
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PostPosted: 2008-12-11 15:10:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lake wrote:


分析第二题

资本主义:我赚取信用所能赚取的金钱.(前提)

绕大弯儿吧。
...


Lake 在笑話我吧, 不過, 人生就是繞大彎, 世界其實很簡單.
'信用所能赚取的金钱'中的'赚取'是正的, '我赚取'中的'赚取'卻是負的. 怪哉!

美國政府倒像是陷入第一個前提 "我救助那些无法救助自己的人."
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PostPosted: 2008-12-12 05:00:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

博弈 wrote:
我救助那些無法救助自己的人(前提)
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天上掉下个林妹妹来,就什么都解决了。或者,掉下块金子来
也行,最好一下把人砸晕 Very Happy

此诗数理与文理惧佳,乃是世上罕见的佳作

例如:共产主义这个词,用数学是无法分析的。而资本主义,
是能用数学来计算的,很精确 Arrow
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