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PostPosted: 2007-08-10 19:19:42    Post subject: 调笑令-梦 Reply with quote


云雾,云雾,
梦里不知何处?
鸿飞做伴游湖,
雷电前来阻途,
寻路,寻路,
一任冷风无数。
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PostPosted: 2007-08-10 20:24:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

好一个"一任冷风无数"
顶个
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莹雪
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PostPosted: 2007-08-10 21:47:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

白水 Moonlight wrote:
好一个"一任冷风无数"
顶个
谢谢关注!
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PostPosted: 2007-08-12 16:57:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

写梦如梦。
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PostPosted: 2007-08-12 19:16:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

野航 wrote:
写梦如梦。
谢谢关注!
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PostPosted: 2007-08-12 20:30:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

云雾,何处? 前来,寻路。
不错,也顶个。
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PostPosted: 2007-08-12 23:01:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

晓松 wrote:
云雾,何处? 前来,寻路。
不错,也顶个。
呵呵,谢谢晓松兄鼓励!
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PostPosted: 2007-08-16 06:32:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

莹雪,这个词的第六七句叠的韵字,是第五句后二个字倒转,如你的词中的阻途,最后一个仄韵也要合这个韵。

随一首,嘻``

霏雾,霏雾,一霎孤烟起处。
花吹淡影清姿,雨细泉生别途,
途别,途别,怕见丁香空结。
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PostPosted: 2007-08-16 13:35:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

满汗全溪 wrote:
莹雪,这个词的第六七句叠的韵字,是第五句倒数第二个字,如你的词中的,最后一个仄韵也要合这个韵。

随一首,嘻``

霏雾,霏雾,一霎孤烟起处。
花吹淡影清姿,雨细泉生别途,
休别,休别,怕见丁香空结。

嚴格來講,六七句的疊韻必須是上句最末兩字倒轉,所以此詞又名《轉應曲》,比如戴叔倫:

邊草,邊草,邊草盡來兵老。
山南山北雪晴, 千里萬里月明。
明月,明月,胡笳一聲愁絕。
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PostPosted: 2007-08-16 15:14:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

戴老师说得对,改过,嘻``
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PostPosted: 2007-08-17 04:14:03    Post subject: 调笑令-梦 Reply with quote

浓雾,浓雾,
猝尔相逢一处?
森森壁立高崖,
云中婉转路迷。
迷路,迷路,
清气回肠任数?

下面是莹雪的

云雾,云雾,
梦里不知何处?
鸿飞做伴游湖,
雷电前来阻途,
寻路,寻路,
一任冷风无数
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莹雪
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PostPosted: 2007-08-17 23:14:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

满汗全溪 wrote:
莹雪,这个词的第六七句叠的韵字,是第五句后二个字倒转,如你的词中的阻途,最后一个仄韵也要合这个韵。

随一首,嘻``

霏雾,霏雾,一霎孤烟起处。
花吹淡影清姿,雨细泉生别途,
途别,途别,怕见丁香空结。

谢谢提示!是我的资料有误,我又差了一下,现已改过。

回一首,

《调笑令》正规格式:
薄雾,薄雾,换得雨丝飞处。丁香紫影仙姿,
○▲,○▲,●⊙⊙○○▲。⊙○⊙●○△,
盛败东风送途,归路,归路,埋葬飞红无数。
⊙●○○●△,○▲,○▲,⊙●⊙○⊙▲。
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莹雪
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PostPosted: 2007-08-17 23:16:12    Post subject: Re: 三台令-梦 Reply with quote

游向高原的鱼 wrote:
莹雪


浓雾,浓雾,
猝尔同君何处?
森森壁立千仞,
婉转云中征途。
迷路,迷路,
荡气回肠谁数?

轻雾,轻雾,
梦里不知何处?
云霞伴我飞空,
泪洒来时曲途,
行路,行路,
历尽艰难无数。
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PostPosted: 2007-08-18 02:31:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

莹雪 wrote:
满汗全溪 wrote:
莹雪,这个词的第六七句叠的韵字,是第五句后二个字倒转,如你的词中的阻途,最后一个仄韵也要合这个韵。

随一首,嘻``

霏雾,霏雾,一霎孤烟起处。
花吹淡影清姿,雨细泉生别途,
途别,途别,怕见丁香空结。

谢谢提示!是我的资料有误,我又差了一下,现已改过。

回一首,

《调笑令》正规格式:
薄雾,薄雾,换得雨丝飞处。丁香紫影仙姿,
○▲,○▲,●⊙⊙○○▲。⊙○⊙●○△,
盛败东风送途,归路,归路,埋葬飞红无数。
⊙●○○●△,○▲,○▲,⊙●⊙○⊙▲。

還是不對,“姿”和“途”沒押上韻,“送”和“路、數”也非同韻,“歸路”也并非“送途”的倒轉。這詞有一定的難度,也正是因為這種種的規矩。
可參考下王建的宮詞:

團扇, 團扇, 美人病來遮面。
玉顏憔悴三年, 誰復商量管弦。
弦管, 弦管, 春草昭陽路斷。

年和弦押平聲韻,弦管為管弦的倒轉,管和斷押仄韻(此例前後兩處葉同一仄韻)。
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PostPosted: 2007-08-18 05:32:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

据《钦定词谱》记载:

古调笑,《乐苑》:商调曲。一名《宫中调笑》。白居易诗《打嫌调笑易》,自注:调笑,抛打曲名也。戴叔伦词,名《转应曲》;冯延巳词,名《三台令》。与宋词《调笑令》不同。

  古调笑 单调三十二字,八句四仄韵、两平韵、两叠韵 王 建

蝴蝶仄韵蝴蝶叠飞上金枝玉叶韵
○●  ○● ⊙⊙⊙○◎● 
君前对舞春风平韵百叶桃花树红韵
⊙⊙◎◎⊙○  ◎◎⊙⊙●○ 
红树仄韵红树叠燕语莺啼日暮韵
○●  ○● ◎◎⊙○◎●

?   此词凡三换头。起用叠句,第六、七句,即倒叠第五句末二字转以应之。戴叔伦所谓转应者,意盖取此。 按,此调王建词四首,韦应物词二首,戴叔伦词一首,冯延巳词三首。其第一、二句,第六、七句,平仄皆同,惟第三句,王词别首“美人并来遮面”,美字、并字俱仄声,遮字平声。第四句,冯词“日斜柳暗花蔫”,日字仄声;戴词“山北山南雪晴”,北字、雪字俱仄声,山南二字俱平声。第五句,王词别首“商人少妇断肠”,商人二字俱平声,少妇二字仄声。结句,戴词“芦笳一声愁绝”,芦字、笳字、愁字俱平声,一字仄声。谱内可平可仄据此,但唐人制调,审音必精,其平仄不同,自中律吕。填者或择一体宗之,更为严谨也。


所以,戴老师说得完全正确,我的《随一首》应该是:

霏雾,霏雾,一霎孤烟起处。
花吹淡影清姿,雨细泉生别离,
离别,离别,怕见丁香空结。


好了,到今天为止,我的使命完成了 byebye ,嘻``
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PostPosted: 2007-08-19 22:31:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

戴玨 wrote:

還是不對,“姿”和“途”沒押上韻,“送”和“路、數”也非同韻,“歸路”也并非“送途”的倒轉。這詞有一定的難度,也正是因為這種種的規矩。
可參考下王建的宮詞:

團扇, 團扇, 美人病來遮面。
玉顏憔悴三年, 誰復商量管弦。
弦管, 弦管, 春草昭陽路斷。

年和弦押平聲韻,弦管為管弦的倒轉,管和斷押仄韻(此例前後兩處葉同一仄韻)。
应该如此是不是?
风住,风住,
○●,○●,
雨倾水烟如雾。
⊙⊙⊙○◎●。
无奈闲坐读书,
⊙⊙◎◎⊙○,
词清文秀妙图。
◎◎⊙⊙●○。
图妙,图妙,
○●,○●,
不觉收云天暮。
◎◎⊙○◎●。
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PostPosted: 2007-08-20 02:20:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

妙和暮沒押上韻。
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PostPosted: 2007-08-20 06:14:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

我来帮帮莹雪:

风住,风住,
雨犹生烟起雾。
那堪春意阑珊,
权且收心悟禅。
禅悟,禅悟,
心觉云天欲暮。 Smile
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PostPosted: 2007-08-20 16:05:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

戴玨 wrote:
妙和暮沒押上韻。
哦,谢谢戴先生!
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PostPosted: 2007-08-20 16:07:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

扁舟 wrote:
我来帮帮莹雪:

风住,风住,
雨犹生烟起雾。
那堪春意阑珊,
权且收心悟禅。
禅悟,禅悟,
心觉云天欲暮。 Smile
谢谢扁舟! Very Happy
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