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【试译非马】鼓 震
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PostPosted: 2009-09-03 20:44:52    Post subject: 【试译非马】鼓 震 Reply with quote

请非马老师审校:

Drum Beats

by William Marr

A hairy fist
bangs relentlessly
on a civilized chest
that tries in vain
to make some flimsy
arguments


鼓 震

非 马 作 周道模 译

毛茸茸的拳头

在文明的胸膛上

粗暴地 重 擂

文明徒劳地反抗

只发出了一些脆弱的

争 辩 ……
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PostPosted: 2009-09-04 05:48:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

William Zhou周道模 wrote:
请非马老师审校:

Drum Beats

by William Marr

A hairy fist
bangs relentlessly
on a civilized chest
that tries in vain
to make some flimsy
arguments



鼓 震

非 马 作 周道模 译

毛茸茸的拳头
在文明的胸膛上
粗暴地 重 擂
文明徒劳地反抗
只发出了一些脆弱的
争 辩
……
...


发出了还是发不出... still pondering...
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PostPosted: 2009-09-06 14:42:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

谢谢你的意见!

从英语不定式语法角度来看,应是“想发出或要发出”。从“击鼓”的常识看,肯定是有“争辩”的。

请非马老师校订。
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PostPosted: 2009-09-06 15:24:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

不是意见,只是一点疑惑。

你说的也正是我想的。 从逻辑上来分析,译文似没错,从英文的语法上来看让人犯琢磨。 不过语法这东西,我好久也没碰了,特别是出现在诗歌中经常不能按常规来对待。

tries in vain to do sth, 是否容易引起歧义?
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PostPosted: 2009-12-10 10:53:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

谢谢道模的翻译. 也谢谢LAKE的琢磨. tries in vain to do sth 是容易引起歧义,也正是我想要的. 问两位好!
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PostPosted: 2010-01-10 17:38:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

赞同非马老师的意见!诗歌语言比散文语言要灵动得多,有时专门“破坏”语法而获得新意和诗意。
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